Nicky Venables, CEO of New Build Database interviews me about my book, Systemic change and whether we will learn from Grenfell.
On 3 July 2009, 3 week old Michelle Udooka died with her mother, Helen, in the Lakanal House Fire. Lessons were not leaarned and on 14 June 2017, the youngest victim t Grenfell was Logan Isaac Gomes, still-born at seven months.
20 day old Michelle Udoak died in the Lakanal House Fire, 12 years ago. We did not learn from it.
Four years ago, the youngest victim at Grenfell was Logan Isaac Gomez, still-born at seven months.